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Thursday, 5 February 2015

THA Talks Edition 64 February 4, 2015

James Fetzer – False Flags & Inside Jobs
James Fetzer is a philosopher of science who has spent over 35 years working on assessing and clarifying the forms and foundations of scientific explanation, probability in science, philosophy of mind, and philosophy of cognitive science, particularly in artificial intelligence and computer science, he has published over 100 articles and 20 books. In the early 1990s Fetzer began researching and publicly addressing the John F. Kennedy assassination, then later the 9/11 attacks and also research regarding the 2002 death of Senator Paul Wellstone. He confounded Scholars for 9/11 Truth in 2005, and claims that the United States government and the Israeli government are involved in these and other conspiracies. James’s allegations have lead to several live television appearances on mainstream news channels locking horns and defending his views Today he continues to research unfolding events with suspicion, making his voice heard through seminars and media including his own radio show “The Real Deal”




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  1. I just read one of the few active comments sections at Mami's, the one where Deanna Spingola was still (even after Pozner's photo being used in 2 different PsyOps, obviously done by the perps to rub it in) defending the Jew-media's version of 9-11 because, in her mind, it would take the entire town of Newtown CT being complicit and hundreds of actors to run the PsyOp.

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=262849797082591331

    Actually, you don't really need hundreds of extras acting in your PsyOp movie BUT should you need them, what's the problem?

    Don't they have them in regular hollywood movies on the PsyOp and propaganda results of which quite a bit might be riding in the longer run but certainly not entire potential anti-gun and anti-drugged-people-owning-guns legislations ready to go if they can get it through?

    "Fake identities don't have family, friends, ex-colleagues, boyfriends, girlfriends, bosses, schoolmates, local butchers, yoga-instructors, etc.

    They have fake family, fake friends, fake ex-colleagues, fake boyfriends, fake girlfriends, fake bosses, fake schoolmates, fake local butchers [b][i]and[/i][/b] fake yoga-instructors, etc. Thanks to pioneering simulations of entire communities like MySpace, Facebook, et al, it's relatively easy to craft a bunch of names, punch in some scant details, link them together, and slowly inflate your simulation with nonsense and bullshit until you have a novelistic backstory for every sim." -- hoi polloi, clues forum

    It's much easier these days to do it electronically and only a handful of people in the entire world will check to make sure these simulated relatives and families and friends are actually real and exist. And what happens to these handful? Do they come out with bombshell stories that bring down entire governments as in Watergate and Lewinsky's jizz-stained dress? Nope. At best they might be given 5 minutes of air time on the MSM as Jim Fetzer and Morgan Reynolds were given on the topic of 9-11 'No-Planes' in order to lend some illusion of objectivity to the controlled MSM, long since absurd to even pretend to, and then forgotten about and marginalized for good. The appearance of these two and no others can also be arranged, of course, to get all dissenters of a certain bent (those looking more into things from a more rational and correct media-fakery angle) to herd themselves behind Fetzer and Reynolds and whatever gatekeeping they're up to instead of finding more honest and less visible choices to be enlightened by such as Simon Shack.

    Spingola needs to get over her ego and her three books at over 2100 pages and understand that just because these PsyOps seem to be so deliberately sloppy doesn't mean that they are not PSYCHOLOGICALLY sophisticated and well thought-out. No matter how sloppy they might seem on a nuts-&-bolts operational level which might get people asking 'why didn't they hire better actors than Robbie Parker, Jeff Bauman and the Harley Guy with all their money?' they are NOT sloppy and amateurish when it comes to manipulating and herding people in the holes they need to get lost in and waste time through the use of PSYCHOLOGICAL levers that make considerations of 'realism' irrelevant by comparison. They know that the deep hurt that awaits most people who get rid of these psychological cushions installed to protect their sanity and equilibrium as functioning members of society will mostly never be confronted and got rid of as long as they keep to their official fable. No different than believing in Jesus because the fables associated with him, however irrational, bring a certain peace of mind to vast numbers of people sharing similar subconscious mechanisms.


    ~ Negentropic MK I

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  2. ( . . . continued)

    I also like how DS tried to smear Sandy Hoaxers with not only Goldbag but David Icke. Why would she do this? Everyone knows that most of the people who post on DIF only do so because it's a free-speech forum and not because they agree with his reptilian theories. I think it's because my Simon Shack thread, which I e-mailed her in the past before the Sandy Hook fiasco (she is, in fact, and has been, unlike Piper, Glenn or Johnson, a 9-11 No-Planer since 2007 http://www.spingola.com/jules_naudet.htm , hence her support for No-Planer Judy Wood who has based her entire theory on inauthenticated videos and images and is therefore not a valid source) and which she responded to positively is on David Icke Forums. I've dropped that link so many times in so many other places that she could not have possibly missed its continuing saga. Knowing deep down that her stance on Sandy Hook is irrational especially when it opposes HER OWN STANCES in favor of media-fakery on the Moon Hoax, 9-11 and Boston, she feels threatened by this thread and by the Clues Forum research, as she should, hence the attempt to smear it away.


    ~ Negentropic MK II

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  3. What's the difference between a Hollywood movie and a PsyOp movie?

    In a Hollywood movie, all the principals, director, cinematographer, actors etc., say that they acted in a pre-scripted movie, which, even if based on actual events proven to have happened 'in reality' or on the larger stage of 'everyday reality' away from the soundstages and studios of Hollywood, always has the caveat of a dramatic depiction and interpretation with any resemblances between actors and 'real people' being unintentional.

    In a PsyOp movie all the actors, including the news anchors, the government people and politicians assigned to the film, any witnesses and any extras needed (even if the numbers run into the hundreds although they usually do not need to do this) plus any post-production actors such as fake whistleblowers going around claiming to have been on the scene (Willie Boy Rodriguez) or relatives of 'victims,' all of these people say that the main event depicted was 'real,' actually happened within the boundaries of the every day 'reality' or the fiction of the streets most people have become conditioned to take as a measure of the 'real.'

    So, in short, in movies, none of the actors or filmmakers are required to say that what they shot was in any way 'real' but simply a dramatic depiction with some logical consistency coming out of the writers' and filmmakers' imagination. When making even a documentary of a 'real event,' you cannot just claim it is a documentary unless it was actually a documentation of an independently proven 'real event' without any of your own actors used or even your opinions, as a filmmaker, interfering with or changing the events. In a Hollywood film, they know they shot a fictitious film whose purpose is the propagandizing of a hopefully large number of people in a certain direction.

    In a PsyOp, the EXACT same thing applies BUT all the filmmakers and actors are REQUIRED to say it was a real event and they are really who they play in the film. Also, if they happen to play themselves in the movie they would be no different than Bruce Willis playing a character named 'Bruce Willis' in Die Hard instead of "John McLane." Just because they happen to be 'real people,' credibility is lent to the fake movie they appear in to fool the gullible whereas as soon as any 'real person' lends his 'real persona' to a fictitious film where the entire narrative is false, he becomes exactly the same as any other thespian.

    As simple as that.

    And what if they don't do what they were required to do?

    Well, either the carrot or the stick with billions of dollars of easy money behind it awaits those few who decide to dissent even after they were pre-screened for their roles carefully. Any wonder why you don't see too many dissenters among those not already compartmentalized?


    ~ Negentropic

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  4. Correction: Deanna Spingola was still (even after Pozner's photo being used in 2 different PsyOps, obviously done by the perps to rub it in) defending the Jew-media's version of 9-11

    This should obviously be the Jew-Media's version of Sandy Hook, not 9-11 - agreeing with 98% of what the MSM tells you and only saying that pharmaceutical drugs from Jew-controlled companies made him do the impossible does not make you much of a dissenter.


    ~ Negentropic

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  5. @ "In a PsyOp movie all the actors, including the news anchors, the government people and politicians assigned to the film, any witnesses and any extras needed (even if the numbers run into the hundreds although they usually do not need to do this) plus any post-production actors such as fake whistleblowers going around claiming to have been on the scene (Willie Boy Rodriguez) or relatives of 'victims,' all of these people say that the main event depicted was 'real,' actually happened within the boundaries of the every day 'reality' or the fiction of the streets most people have become conditioned to take as a measure of the 'real.'"

    To this they add variations to confuse the alternative media a bit more such as some of the 'relatives' claiming it was a government false-flag or 'Bush' was responsible for it etc. This psychological re-enforcement makes sure the official fable and its triggers remain solid in people's minds despite having zero validity upon the half an hour's honest examination UNINFLUENCED by these re-enforcements.

    The same mechanism is operative in deeper levels of alternative media gatekeeping. When Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Kevin Barrett, David Icke, Daryl Bradford Smith, Christopher Bollyn, Alan Sabrosky, Mark Glenn & his entire gang, Michael Collins Piper, Thierry Meyssan, Prostink and all the rest of these HUNDREDS of people daily, weekly, monthly and yearly for over 13 years promote the easily-proven fraud that 'the planes were real' and 'the victims were real' the authority of these figures re-enforces the idea so much that few have the balls to trust their own judgments.

    A guy like Whooli or Zapoper, if they even have access to Shack's research in the first place and do not automatically consider him the 'devil' of 'no-planer disinfo' as instructed by Alex Jones, a guy they might hate and ridicule but whose word still carries immense weight in most of the alt media, might think even after 12 years that: well, it looks to me like these planes are fake and these victims photos have obviously been faked and no man jumping out of a window or anywhere else can be 13 foot tall or 21 foot tall, BUT if I start pushing this position which I am now confident was closest to what really happened, I will be going AGAINST an entire avalanche of the alternative media and creating 'divisions,' so I'll just zip that mouth and keep promoting a few solid 'truths' to the dumbed-down such as building 7 and all the old stuff that Alex Jones was churning out 10 years ago EXCEPT say that it was Jews who pulled it and not the NWO.

    Well, sorry, and as much as I appreciate all the hard-work both Whooli and Zapoper do for free every day, that just isn't good enough. You HAVE to take a stand for the truth even if the entire world is against you because you simply do not know if ALL of the people named above weren't placed there to lead you down the wrong roads. No need to dwell on that since direct agent or useful idiot/ego, the result is the same: disinformation or making everything believable and nothing truly knowable. Just saying it was 'Israel, Mossad or elite Jews' behind it does not solve the problem because it wishes for a old-style revolution that is not going to happen and these same people will be staying IN POWER and able to pull the same wool over the same billion peon eyes over and over again as we have seen repeatedly in the past decade WHILE the real revolution, an entirely new type coming from WITHIN millions of individuals synergizing higher & higher degrees of truth, and one which the elite Jews and their 70 million dollar think tanks are well aware of, is handicapped and hobbling and finding it very difficult to get to its destination.


    ~ Negentropic

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